A recap by Judy and Leonie who were both struck by how Fran Kelly and Gillian Nasato seemed to have found exactly the role they were born to do. We’ve put our thoughts about these two extraordinary women on record in a conversation about what we loved and learned from their two interviews. It’s a quick recap of what we thought were the highlights, in our own words, in our own way. We hope you like it.

// Hosted by Judy Stewart // Produced by Leonie Marsh // Sound Engineer: Jason Millhouse // Research Assistant: Claudia Cameron // Instagram: @_unpaused